tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18370689.post114021705697559606..comments2023-09-17T07:33:22.109-04:00Comments on York Staters: The Middle-of-Nowhere in York State: Pt. 1York Statershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10580401207146050684noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18370689.post-1140471342174292502006-02-20T16:35:00.000-05:002006-02-20T16:35:00.000-05:00Joe, perhaps you are thinking about the Lost Horiz...Joe, perhaps you are thinking about the Lost Horizon, which became Club Tundra and I think it still has that name. It is right near Le Moyne, but at least in the past they used to have pretty solid bands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18370689.post-1140451130780661242006-02-20T10:58:00.000-05:002006-02-20T10:58:00.000-05:00joe ... perry's ice cream is based outside of buff...joe ... perry's ice cream is based outside of buffalo. dunkirk used to be synonymous with dunkirk ice cream, which had that distinctive green squiggle trademark on its trucks up and down the thruway. but the company sold out and is no longer local, as is so often the tale upstate (although, i believe, the plant still exists).<BR/><BR/>as for dunkirk-fredonia, let's see: dunkirk used to be the home of the fred koch brewery, maker of black horse ale. but they shut the place down in the early 1980s, just before the revival of so many local brands and microbreweries; it could have turned out to succeed like f.x. matt. ah, well. fredonia, i believe, is still home to red wing, a jelly and peanut butter-maker whose peanut butter is beloved by william buckley, among others.<BR/><BR/>westfield was the home for ages of welch's jelly and grape juice, until the company moved its corporate headquarters closer to gotham ... no surprise. as for fredonia, mark twain's mother and sister lived there for many years, and that is a story unto itself: twain, or sam clemens, believed a guy he met in fredonia essentially ruined his life, although it was a bit more complicated than all that.<BR/><BR/>i spent a lot of my youth at point gratiot, a park in dunkirk overlooking lake erie: for some reason, the place was always full of red-headed woodpeckers.<BR/><BR/>- seanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18370689.post-1140445559965878652006-02-20T09:25:00.000-05:002006-02-20T09:25:00.000-05:00I've got to say Joe, I haven't the foggiest idea. ...I've got to say Joe, I haven't the foggiest idea. Very few "club" type venues stay with their original name/ownership/target audience for more than a year. The club you're talking about was likely a techno dance club and a r&b club or maybe even a jazz club in it's previous incarnations. Venues for the punk and ska shows of my youth have all been changed several times over by now (except of course the Wescott Community Center)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18370689.post-1140290120090170022006-02-18T14:15:00.000-05:002006-02-18T14:15:00.000-05:00There's maybe 5 towns west of westfield in the are...There's maybe 5 towns west of westfield in the area: Ripley, South Ripley, State Line, Sherman and farther south Findley Lake. I imagine State Line and South Ripley to be some fairly middle of nowhere places, I think someday I'll be out there. I'm liking what I see farther south, there's a ski resort in Cutting which is the absolute south-east tip of the state -and east of there, there are towns with no apparent reasons that you'd even drive thru them to get somewhere else.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of Dunkirk, isn't Perry's Ice Cream from there?<BR/><BR/>What's caught my attention East and South-east of Buffalo in Wyoming county for awhile is this town called Bliss, for some reason I heard something about it and haven't forgotten it. North of there going to Darien Lake I have been through the town Wyoming, what a hotbed that was.<BR/><BR/>I'm hesitant except towns within 10-20 miles from Lake Erie or Ontario, there's just too much potential in being near a great lake.<BR/><BR/>If Natalie reads this: Do you know that name of a smallish club in North Syracuse that has all the best indie bands? I've been there twice and can't recall the name now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18370689.post-1140222539293806862006-02-17T19:28:00.000-05:002006-02-17T19:28:00.000-05:00joe -maybe this is off your map, but here's a plac...joe -<BR/><BR/>maybe this is off your map, but here's a place you might want to seek out:<BR/><BR/>i grew up in dunkirk, 40 miles west of buffalo, in chautauqua county. i used to commute to college in erie, pa., and my buddies and i used to stop sometimes at this lonely little stone bar maybe 10 miles west of westfield, off route 5, on the new york side of ripley. in other words, it was in the last lonesome border area before pennsylavia, probably a solid eight-to-nine hour drive from new york.<BR/><BR/>we'd go by at night and you'd see the lights from this place, set back from the road, surrounded by woods and vineyards, and there was nothing - no houses, nothing - around it, just beer lights in the windows. we'd pull off the two-lane highway and go into the dark parking lot and walk into the bar where two or three people would turn to look at us as if we were a different species, heads turned from the bar, before going back to whatever they were doing. they were in their 20s and 30s - tattooed and leather, country rough - and we would drink a beer while someone played loud medal on the jukebox and we would think this is it, what they warned columbus about: sail farther, and you'll fall off the edge of the world.<BR/><BR/>i wonder, sometimes, if the place is still there.<BR/><BR/>- seanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com